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139,000 Pakistanis deported in last two years
According to the data provided to the National Assembly on Tuesday, approximately 139,000 Pakistanis have been deported from 47 countries, including the United States, European Union and Arab countries, during the last two years.

The documents showed that most Pakistanis were expelled from the Middle Eastern countries, including Saudi Arabia (51,195), the United Arab Emirates (32,503), Oman (20,388) and Iran (15, 849).

According to a country-wise break-up, 50 Pakistanis were deported from Bahrain, 507 from Kuwait, 200 from Qatar, 82 from Yemen, 22 from Jordan, 12 from Iraq, 33 from Syria, 45 from Egypt, 3 from Nepal, 403 from Sri Lanka, 370 from Libya, 1,727 from South Africa, 1 from Nigeria, 7 from Kenya, 24 from Morocco, 5 from Mauritius, 3 from Sudan, 10 from Zimbabwe, 4 from Zambia, 49 from Switzerland, 22 from France, 7 from Austria, 2 from Slovakia, 4 from Romania, 39 from Poland, 125 from Canada, 13530 from Turkey, 21 from Denmark, 25 from Lithuania, 27 from Sweden, 45 from the Russian Federation, 26 from Norway, 13 from Serbia and Montenegro, 39 from Spain, 75 from the Netherlands, 12 from Italy, 261 from Cyprus, 46 from Belgium, 575 from Afghanistan, 34 from Australia and 1 from New Zealand.
Posted by: john || 09/03/2005 06:53 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They're disposable.
Posted by: .com || 09/03/2005 8:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Seems like a good start. Some of the countries are lagging in their efforts. The US is missing from the list. Where do these people get deported to? After the subway and bus bombings in London, I was ready to suggest that these folks be put in a row boat at the 12 mile limit with instructions to start rowing for a country that would accept them.
Posted by: John Q. Citizen || 09/03/2005 8:52 Comments || Top||

#3  Remember when the government required all adult Muslim men to register after 9/11? A great many Pakistanis suddenly left of their own free will, taking their families with them. Many went back to Pakistan, many claimed asylum in Canada. All claimed merely to be working here illegally, having overstayed visas years (decades, in some cases!) ago. NPR reporters made much of the fact that these had all been hard workers who bought property and paid their taxes on time. And how would their Americanized children be able to adjust to life in Pakistan, after growing up with all that freedom and a good education? No fair!!!!!!!

Anyway, the point I am working up to is that the ones who went back to Pakistan were voluntary repatriations, and thus wouldn't be counted amongst the deportations. Besides, that happened years and years ago.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/03/2005 9:12 Comments || Top||

#4  That's a lot of fake passports...
Posted by: Raj || 09/03/2005 9:31 Comments || Top||

#5  Shifting the problem is no answer. When the roulette ball falls there is a sudden boom.

Exterminate now for the sake of our planut!!
Posted by: Captain America || 09/03/2005 12:08 Comments || Top||

#6  10 from Zimbabwe

What the hell did these people do to piss off Zim-Bob?
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/03/2005 13:17 Comments || Top||

#7  Even a country as messed up as Zimbabwe wants nothing to do with Pakistanis.
Posted by: john || 09/03/2005 15:04 Comments || Top||

#8  ATHENS, SEPTEMBER 2: Four Pakistan men were arrested in Athens and western Greece on charges of kidnapping a Pakistani immigrant and demanding Euro10,00 (US$12,500) as ransom money, police said on Friday.

The 32 year old shopkeeper was abducted near the town of Messolongi, 250 kilometers west of Athens. The four suspects allegedly threatened to kill him unless he paid the ransom.

Two suspects were arrested in Athens yesterday while attempting to collect Euro3,000 (USD3,750) of the demanded sum from a bank branch in the capital.

The other two were arrested during a police raid near Messolongi.None of the arrested men, aged 24 to 34, was identified.The shopkeeper was freed unharmed.
Posted by: john || 09/03/2005 15:29 Comments || Top||

#9  They're disposable
Hell yes, of course they are. Ever try to fix one?
Posted by: Mona Gorilla || 09/03/2005 15:51 Comments || Top||

#10  Ever try to fix one?


wellll I would assume it's like fixing my cat, but with less precaution and care and no pain meds:

need thread of some kind, soldering iron, and a pair of sporks
Posted by: Frank G || 09/03/2005 16:52 Comments || Top||

#11  This is an absolute disgrace. Why isn't the number higher?
Posted by: Akbar McTavish || 09/03/2005 17:13 Comments || Top||


Foreign funding behind Bangladesh booms
Bangladesh authorities said that the Aug 17 natwionwide terror attacks were planned in mid-April and funded by Kuwait-based organisation Revival of Islamic Heritage Society (RIHS) and an imam of a British mosque.
I guess that's the Islamic heritage they're so intent on reviving...
About 460 bombs went off in 63 of Bangladesh's 64 districts that morning, killing two and injuring more than 100. A top official of the police's Special Branch (SB) seeking anonymity said important meetings prior to the explosions were held in Naogaon, Joypurhat, Gaibandha, Kurigram, Lalmonirhat, Chittagong, Barisal, Satkhira and Dhaka at different times between mid-April and mid-August. The official also said the decision to launch the bomb attacks was finalised after Moulana Ataur Rahman, imam of a mosque in Britain and also director of the Ahle Hadith Library and Information Centre at Nagheshwari in Kurigram, came to the country on April 17 and left on Aug 20.

Soon after returning home, Ataur had had meetings with Abdur Rahman, chief of banned militant group Jamaatul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB), and Siddiqul Islam alias Bangla Bhai, operations commander of Jagrata Muslim Janata Bangladesh (JMJB). Investigators obtained the information from three suspects -- Noor Mohammad, Hafez Habibullah, and Shamsul Huda. "We are looking into their statements. These are very vital clues," said the official. "We are trying to arrest Abdul Malek, the man who looks after the Ahle Hadith's information centre at Nagheshwari in absence of Ataur. He may give us some significant leads to the investigation," he added.

He said Kuwait's RIHS was one of the key sources of funds necessary to have staged the near-simultaneous explosions across the country. Bangladesh intelligence agencies have recently recommended banning RIHS for financing Islamist militants in the country.
I'd call that a pretty good idea. A nice diplonote to Kuwait might help, too. Then there are international arrest warrants for the financiers. Or they could just unleash RAB and have them all meet with unfortunate accidents.
In a report prepared to suggest ways and means to root out militancy, the agencies have advised the government to close down the organisation, claiming that it seems to be more concerned with promoting militancy rather than protecting Islamic heritage, said an intelligence source.
The two being the same, they probably don't see a conflict...
The agencies found that the NGO, also known as Jomiatul Ehya-ut Turaj, had been accused of rearing Islamist extremists in Pakistan and Afghanistan as well. It provided funds to Tawhid Trust and Hadith Foundation, both legally and illegally. Both the recipient organisations were founded by militant kingpin Asadullah Al Galib. Intelligence men said Galib, now in jail, and his organisation Ahle Hadith Andolon Bangladesh (Ahab) had been channelling funds to JMB, blamed for the Aug 17 blitz. Following statements from Noor, Habib and Shamsul, police raided Ahle Hadith Library and Information Centre at Nagheswari on Wednesday (Aug 31) and recovered six books titled Islam ebong Attaghati Mussalman (Islam and suicidal Muslims). But caretaker Abdul Malek managed to evade capture. Police also raided the Nageshwari house of Abu Bakar, a Dhaka city unit leader of Islami Oikya Andolon, and recovered banners and leaflets championing Islamic movement and documents of RIHS.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 09/03/2005 01:42 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:


MMA fumes over Pakistani talks with Israel
Pakistan's Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz defended talks held with Israel a day earlier as Muslim clerics denounced the shift in policy in fiery sermons during Friday prayers, but planned street protests fell flat.

The meeting between Foreign Minister Khursheed Mehmood Kasuri and his Israeli counterpart Silvan Shalom in Istanbul on Thursday was the first publicly acknowledged high-level contact Pakistan has held with the Jewish state.

"There is no harm in having talks," Aziz told the lower house of the National Assembly, where opposition Islamist legislators walked out in token protest.

"If we have met somebody this does not mean we agree with them. We may be able to change their stand.

A staunch supporter of the Palestinian cause, Pakistan stressed it will not recognise Israel until a Palestinian state is established.

The government's decision to open talks was prompted by Israel's removal of settlers from Gaza last month.

Foreign Minister Kasuri told reporters during a stopover in Dubai before returning home that the move would give Pakistan "diplomatic space".

"Frankly (secret) contacts have been going on for decades, but we wanted to send a signal to the Israeli government and people that the assumption that Islamic countries cannot live in peace with the Jewish state is not correct, if Israel were to vacate occupied territory," Kasuri said.

Hundreds of Islamic Jihad supporters protested in the northern Gaza Strip against Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf's decision to hold talks with Israel, and Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan's agreement to host them.

"We are angry at Erdogan who sponsored the Pakistani-Zionist talks. We are angry with Musharraf," said Mohammad Al Hindi, an Islamic Jihad leader who accused Musharraf of seeking to satisfy the United States.

In Pakistani mosques, anger welled up during Friday prayers.

"General Musharraf is an agent of Jews. His agenda is to sell Pakistan and Pakistani Muslims to Jews and the Jews' ally," the cleric told his congregation at Islamabad's Red Mosque.

"We will not allow General Musharraf to disgrace Islam. Every Muslim will resist General Musharraf's plan," the preacher said.

For all the rabble-rousing in more radical mosques, street protests planned by Islamist parties were poorly attended.

Munawar Hassan, secretary general of the Jamaat-e-Islami (Islamic Party), warned Kasuri would be greeted by black flags when he returns home, but in the capital Islamabad, a protest in front of a press club mustered less than 100 supporters.

From his stronghold in Peshawar, the provincial capital of North West Frontier Province, Qazi Hussain Ahmed, a leader of the alliance of six Islamist parties accused Musharraf of compromising over Afghanistan, Kashmir and now Palestine, and pledged to launch a countrywide protest.

But only a few hundred supporters came out on the streets of Peshawar on Friday, albeit chanting with gusto "al jihad, al jihad" and "America's friend is the nation's traitor" and "al jihad, al jihad" in a summons to join a holy war.

Newspapers, however, saw how Pakistan stood to gain by engaging Israel.

"First, it will be a blow to the growing Indo-Israeli nexus," said "The News", referring Israel's sale of advanced weapons to Pakistan's old rival, India.

Secondly, it would "bring credible advantages for Pakistan within the American political system, where the Jewish lobby's clout is unquestionable".

And thirdly, the newspaper said, it would lift some pressure put on Pakistan by the West over management of its nuclear arms.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 09/03/2005 00:09 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "First, it will be a blow to the growing Indo-Israeli nexus," said "The News", referring Israel's sale of advanced weapons to Pakistan's old rival, India.

Secondly, it would "bring credible advantages for Pakistan within the American political system, where the Jewish lobby's clout is unquestionable".


Serious delusions here.
The Indian defence budget is many times that of Pakistan and is projected to grow tremendously as the economy improves. India is the largest market for Israeli defence goods and will remain so.

AIPAC is not going to lobby for Pakistan, a nation where the majority of the population has been indoctrinated to hate Jews.

Pakistan passports are actually stamped "not valid for travel to Israel". Pak may change these symbols but the hatred of Israel will always be there.

Disappointment in Pakistan at not being able to block Indo-Israeli defence deals and restrictions on sales of military technology (which Pak might share with Israel's arab enemies) will create a backlash against the talks.



Posted by: john || 09/03/2005 15:50 Comments || Top||


US Soldier, Interpreter Killed in Afghan Clash
A US soldier and an Afghan interpreter were killed while preparing for an assault on a Taleban position in which a district level Taleban commander was later killed, the US military said yesterday. The soldier and the interpreter were killed by small-arms fire as they moved in on Thursday for a daylight attack, the US military said in a statement.
Posted by: Fred || 09/03/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under:


Pakistan-Israel Talks Anger Hard-Liners
Pakistan's initiation of high-level talks with Israel prompted fury from Islamic hard-liners who stormed out of Parliament on Friday and called protests in major cities across the country. But despite fiery rhetoric, the rallies held after Friday prayers were poorly attended, and newspaper commentators gave the landmark meeting between Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom and his Pakistani counterpart Khursheed Kasuri a cautious welcome.

Thursday's meeting in Turkey was the first high-level contact between the two countries — a direct response to Israel's recent removal of Jewish settlers from the Gaza Strip. However, Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammed Naeem Khan said there are no plans for President Gen. Pervez Musharraf to meet with Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon at the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly meeting later this month — a possibility that Shalom said he had discussed with Kasuri.

News of the meeting in Turkey surprised many here, and hard-line Islamic clerics from an influential, anti-U.S. opposition bloc in Pakistan's Parliament responded quickly with a call for protests in major cities across the country. The rallies fizzled. At the largest, about 300 supporters of an opposition coalition of six Islamic parties, Mutahida Majlis-e-Amal, gathered in the northwestern city of Peshawar. Smaller protests were staged by the coalition in Quetta and Karachi. At a rally in Rawalpindi, near the capital, only about a dozen people showed up.
Don'tcha hate it when that happens? Qazi must be taking the gas pipe about now...
Posted by: Fred || 09/03/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Definitely took a couple of twists in the ol' turban, for sure.
Posted by: Seafarious || 09/03/2005 0:08 Comments || Top||

#2  maybe if they had Cindy Sheehan help stir up the grass roots?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/03/2005 1:56 Comments || Top||

#3  No Islamist rally in Pakistan ever draws more than a few hundred people unless the establishment wants it to.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 09/03/2005 3:21 Comments || Top||

#4  I hear Cindy is going to Aruba to help find Lacy.
Posted by: Mona Gorilla || 09/03/2005 9:46 Comments || Top||

#5  All that steam has to go somewhere.
Posted by: Sperese Ebbavith1908 || 09/03/2005 15:27 Comments || Top||


Taliban Commander Killed in Afghanistan
U.S. and Afghan forces killed a regional Taliban commander the military said Friday as violence spiraled ahead of this month's landmark elections. The Taliban commander — identified by Afghan officials as Thor Mullah Manan — was killed with another rebel fighter in a firefight Thursday with coalition and Afghan forces in Daychopan district of southern Zabul province, the U.S. military said. The military said Manan was in command of three other Taliban sub-commanders and responsible for the movement of equipment and personnel throughout the northwest Zabul province — regarded as a hotbed of Taliban-led insurgents.
What the hell kind of Taliban is named "Thor"? They couldn't find a "Mahmoud"?
Posted by: Fred || 09/03/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Does Thor go to Valallah?
Posted by: ed || 09/03/2005 0:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Thor = the Pashtun pronunciation of Whore

/so glad the he_whore is dead.

Posted by: Unavish Grolutch4117 || 09/03/2005 0:13 Comments || Top||

#3  How many commanders they have? Just pass around the "command hat" each day or something?
Posted by: Charles || 09/03/2005 0:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Every time you kill a commander, you create a new one. I mean, imagine a U.S. unit that loses commanders...after a while an E-5 would be in charge of a battalion.
Posted by: gromky || 09/03/2005 1:43 Comments || Top||

#5  Thor = Sore with a lisp
Posted by: Frank G || 09/03/2005 1:50 Comments || Top||

#6  Q: How many commanders does it take to command the taliban? Anyone?
Posted by: Captain America || 09/03/2005 2:47 Comments || Top||

#7  And every man a King!
Posted by: Huey Gorilla || 09/03/2005 12:21 Comments || Top||

#8  "You're Thor" I'm tho thore I can hardly pith.

(Very old joke)
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 09/03/2005 15:04 Comments || Top||



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